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Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | When I go to Cover Scans and tick the banner box invelos recognizes this as a change and wants me to contribute it.
Since this field is optional, why does this happen? And, why should it? |
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Registered: December 14, 2010 | Posts: 90 |
| Posted: | | | | It seems that an unwanted side effect of ticking the banner box (and saving the changes) is that the image gets re-saved with a high compression level. With one particular front cover the size of the image file went from 186KB to 74KB. I see similar reductions in size with other cover scans if I change the media banner option.
Although this definitely counts as a change, it also definitely sounds like a bug - why should the image be re-saved (and re-compressed) at all, if one just toggles the media banner option? | | | Last edited: by Ranavalone |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ranavalone: Quote: It seems that an unwanted side effect of ticking the banner box (and saving the changes) is that the image gets re-saved with a high compression level. With one particular front cover the size of the image file went from 186KB to 74KB. I'm shocked. Is this true? | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,692 |
| Posted: | | | | if this is what happens when you change the banner setting then remind me never to change the banner setting until this is fixed. | | | Paul |
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Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbb: Quote: Quoting Ranavalone:
Quote: It seems that an unwanted side effect of ticking the banner box (and saving the changes) is that the image gets re-saved with a high compression level. With one particular front cover the size of the image file went from 186KB to 74KB. I'm shocked. Is this true? I have no idea if this is what is happening but when the covers change when one ticks the banner. The scans goes from short and fat to tall and thin so I'm guessing this is what Ranavalone is talking about. |
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Registered: December 14, 2010 | Posts: 90 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbb: Quote: Quoting Ranavalone:
Quote: It seems that an unwanted side effect of ticking the banner box (and saving the changes) is that the image gets re-saved with a high compression level. With one particular front cover the size of the image file went from 186KB to 74KB. I'm shocked. Is this true? Indeed it is. You can easily verify the behaviour (and restore the image) taking these steps: - open any profile for editing - toggle the media banner option for frront or back cover scan - save changes (obviously no need to contribute the change perceived by DVD Profiler) - select Online -> Refresh DVD from Invelos -> Preview Changes... - observe the different sizes between the cover scan in your local database and in the on-line database - accept the cover scan(s) from the on-line database I usually change the media banner option from Automatic to Off for Criterion Collection Blu-rays, as they come in custom HD Keep Case with no Blu-ray logo on top. After that I restore the cover from the on-line database and everything is fine. I don't see the media banner and I still have exactly the same cover scan as in the on-line database. | | | Last edited: by Ranavalone |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,203 |
| Posted: | | | | Yep, just tried and the file size drops from 183 KB to 121 KB just from adding the banner. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: December 14, 2010 | Posts: 90 |
| Posted: | | | | I've been aware of this mysterious "change" detected by the DVD Profiler when toggling the Media Banner option for a few weeks, but I never realised at that time what was happening to the cover images. The behaviour just seemed like a minor nuisance.
Only when the color information additions started to pour down in droves from the common database, I saw differences in sizes in my local cover images vs. the cover images coming along with the color information updates.
It was puzzling but I still didn't take the time to connect the dots, as just processing the avalanche of updates has been taking a lot of time.
Thanks to Kathy for bringing this up; this behaviour can be really bothersome for somebody who has their own scans which are not in the common database at all, e.g., because the covers have changed from the original release. | | | Last edited: by Ranavalone |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ranavalone: Quote:
Quote: Is this true? Indeed it is. You are right. Media Banner switch -> jpg compression. From to Even with Cover Images locked Profiler simply replaces the original files. Thank you for bringing this up, Sirs, I was unaware of the behavior. Mr. Cole, does this work as intended? The good thing about it: 5.627 new colors means better image quality. | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,747 |
| Posted: | | | | In the interim, try to set the image quality to 100%.
Edit Profile -> Cover Scans -> File -> Adjust Compression. | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote: In the interim, try to set the image quality to 100%.
Edit Profile -> Cover Scans -> File -> Adjust Compression. Should this be set at 100%? |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
Quote: In the interim, try to set the image quality to 100%. Should this be set at 100%? JPG compression is always lossy, so more quality is lost every time the JPG file is compressed and saved again. 100% does not mean no compression, just less compression and thus less loss. | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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