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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | like in the movie: Speed
behind stunt people and not in cast section, space between cast and stunt people, space between stunt people and helicopter pilots.
Craig Hosking as Helicopter Pilot
Harry Hauss as Helicopter Pilot
J. David Jones as Helicopter Pilot
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think the space between the cast and the stunt people indicates the end of the cast section. BUT there are other spaces that we judge to be within cast lists  , so that's a bit of shaky ground. I would use the space before the stunts and justification to exclude the stunts and the pilots. | | | ...James
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with James.
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would only credit pilots and stuntpeople if they are clearly mentioned in the cast credits like for example in "Polar Express" where they are listet as "Additional Adult Performers" . All else should be omitted. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote:
BUT there are other spaces that we judge to be within cast lists Exactly. Most of us also add voices, dancers, singers, bands, puppeteers etc. to the cast section if they are credited elsewhere in the credits and I do not understand why pilots would have to be an exception. They all play a role just as the uncredited cast (which also may be added if proven with a valuable source). | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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| Registered: April 14, 2007 | | Posts: 433 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would probably guess that the pilot credits we are discussing are crew roles, and not on camera roles, so therefore are not credited. I would probably bet that they are getting credit for their roles in piloting the helicopter as part of the camera crew when aerial shots are done, much like all the drivers do when all they do is shuttle crew and equipment. | | | | Chris |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,198 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet: Quote:
Quoting m.cellophane:
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BUT there are other spaces that we judge to be within cast lists
Exactly. Most of us also add voices, dancers, singers, bands, puppeteers etc. to the cast section if they are credited elsewhere in the credits and I do not understand why pilots would have to be an exception. They all play a role just as the uncredited cast (which also may be added if proven with a valuable source). I do not believe 'most of us' do that. I know that I do not add voices, dancers, singers, bands, puppeteers etc. to the cast section if they are credited elsewhere in the credits. For puppeteers specifically, they must be included in the end credits to be included in the profile...or so it says in the rules. The rules are very clear on this point. "For any film with standard credits, take the actor information from the end credits only..." People listed after the standard credits, meaning in the crew section, do not get entered into profiler. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting cmaeditor: Quote:
I would probably guess that the pilot credits we are discussing are crew roles, and not on camera roles, so therefore are not credited. Yes, I could guess that too, but I do think they really are visible in the movie Speed and are not uncredited. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think because they are listed after the stunt people then in this case we don't list them.
If they'd been listed straight after the cast then I think an argument could be made for including them. |
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