Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next
Sound credits in Young Frankenstein
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
No, I iz no Cheshire Cat!
Registered: August 22, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Posts: 1,807
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
On Screen:
Production Mixer  Gene Cantamessa      
Production Rerecording  Richard Portman
Sound Editor  Don Hall

In a number of DVDP profiles:
Gene Cantamessa Production Sound Mixer
Richard Portman Sound Re-Recording Mixer
Don Hall Sound Editor


Is Portman's role right?
-- Enry
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
Don't be discommodious
Registered: March 13, 2007
United States Posts: 21,610
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I would call it correct. But a screen cap of where he might be in relation to Cantamessa and Hall might change that.

Skip
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbigdaddyhorse
Registered: June 21, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
United States Posts: 2,621
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Sounds good, but Skip is also right.
If Gene Cantamessa is in with the other sound credits, then he's a re-recording mixer as well. If outside the other sound, Production Sound Mixer is correct.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
No, I iz no Cheshire Cat!
Registered: August 22, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Posts: 1,807
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
-- Enry
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
No, I iz no Cheshire Cat!
Registered: August 22, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Posts: 1,807
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting bigdaddyhorse:
Quote:
If Gene Cantamessa is in with the other sound credits, then he's a re-recording mixer as well.


Why? I just read in the Rules that "Production Mixer" => "Production Sound Mixer", so I guess that is the right role for Cantamessa.

As to Portman's,  I can't find "Production Rerecording" in the Crew credits table.
-- Enry
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
Profiling since Dec. 2000
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Netherlands Posts: 8,667
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting EnryWiki:
Quote:
Quoting bigdaddyhorse:
Quote:
If Gene Cantamessa is in with the other sound credits, then he's a re-recording mixer as well.


Why? I just read in the Rules that "Production Mixer" => "Production Sound Mixer", so I guess that is the right role for Cantamessa.

It is. This translates to "production sound mixer", and it doesn't matter at all that he's credited right next to the other sound crew.

Quote:
As to Portman's,  I can't find "Production Rerecording" in the Crew credits table.

Indeed it isn't. I still feel a "sound re-recording mixer" credit is completely appropriate, though (better yet: it seems totally obvious to me). I'm also glad to see that others like Skip agree. Apparently we suddenly are allowed to use some "common sense" - I'll have to remember that... 
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantschaumi
IOSONO
Registered: June 22, 2007
Posts: 89
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting EnryWiki:
Quote:
On Screen:
Production Mixer  Gene Cantamessa      
Production Rerecording  Richard Portman
Sound Editor  Don Hall

In a number of DVDP profiles:
Gene Cantamessa Production Sound Mixer
Richard Portman Sound Re-Recording Mixer
Don Hall Sound Editor


Is Portman's role right?

All three are correct in the profiles.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
No, I iz no Cheshire Cat!
Registered: August 22, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Posts: 1,807
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting schaumi:
Quote:
Quoting EnryWiki:
Quote:
On Screen:
Production Mixer  Gene Cantamessa      
Production Rerecording  Richard Portman
Sound Editor  Don Hall

In a number of DVDP profiles:
Gene Cantamessa Production Sound Mixer
Richard Portman Sound Re-Recording Mixer
Don Hall Sound Editor


Is Portman's role right?

All three are correct in the profiles.


"Production Rerecording" is not listed in the Credits table though. And the Rule says

Quote:
For each category, include only those people credited with the roles listed in the "Film Credits to Include" column. If someone is not credited with one of these roles, do not include them in the Crew section.
-- Enry
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantschaumi
IOSONO
Registered: June 22, 2007
Posts: 89
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
So then leave out this credit! No problem.

I just confirmed that Richard Portman definitely was the Re-Recording Mixer on YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN. You may use that information for completing Your file on that film, or You can follow the rules and have a film with recorded production sound from the set plus sound editing in post production but without any finally mixed sound (which is exactly that what You hear on Your DVD).

Incomplete but happy! 
 Last edited: by schaumi
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
No, I iz no Cheshire Cat!
Registered: August 22, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Posts: 1,807
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting schaumi:
Quote:
So then leave out this credit! No problem.

I just confirmed that Richard Portman definitely was the Re-Recording Mixer on YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN. You may use that information for completing Your file on that film, or You can follow the rules and have a film with recorded production sound from the set plus sound editing in post production but without any finally mixed sound (which is exactly that what You hear on Your DVD).

Incomplete but happy! 



Ok, if you say that was exactly his role, I'll try and contribute it even if it's written differently than in the table. BTW, it's already listed in several profiles for Young Frankenstein.
-- Enry
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorrailroaded
Registered: December 16, 2007
Netherlands Posts: 926
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Maybe interesting for the readers: Portman was nominated for an Oscar 10......times (including YF) and won the AA for "The Deer Hunter". Cantamessa was nominated 7 times and won the AA for "E.T."
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
No, I iz no Cheshire Cat!
Registered: August 22, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Posts: 1,807
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting EnryWiki:
Quote:
Quoting schaumi:
Quote:
So then leave out this credit! No problem.

I just confirmed that Richard Portman definitely was the Re-Recording Mixer on YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN. You may use that information for completing Your file on that film, or You can follow the rules and have a film with recorded production sound from the set plus sound editing in post production but without any finally mixed sound (which is exactly that what You hear on Your DVD).

Incomplete but happy! 



Ok, if you say that was exactly his role, I'll try and contribute it even if it's written differently than in the table. BTW, it's already listed in several profiles for Young Frankenstein.


It received 9 Yes votes and 0  No votes, and was approved and released.
-- Enry
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantschaumi
IOSONO
Registered: June 22, 2007
Posts: 89
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Fine 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDaddy DVD
Lost in Translation
Registered: March 14, 2007
Netherlands Posts: 2,366
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting EnryWiki:
Quote:
"Production Rerecording" is not listed in the Credits table though. And the Rule says

Quote:
For each category, include only those people credited with the roles listed in the "Film Credits to Include" column. If someone is not credited with one of these roles, do not include them in the Crew section.

Of all the rules this must be the one I hate the most. While I understand it needs to be there, it also gives users enough fuel to remove crew which are not exactly credited as presented in that column. Luckily I can keep them local, but it really saddenst me it prevents us to share them.
Martin Zuidervliet

DVD Profiler Nederlands
 Last edited: by Daddy DVD
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantpauls42
Reg: 31/01/2003
Registered: March 13, 2007
United Kingdom Posts: 2,692
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet:
Quote:
Quoting EnryWiki:
Quote:
"Production Rerecording" is not listed in the Credits table though. And the Rule says

Quote:
For each category, include only those people credited with the roles listed in the "Film Credits to Include" column. If someone is not credited with one of these roles, do not include them in the Crew section.

Of all the rules this must be the one I hate the most. While I understand it needs to be there, it also gives users enough fuel to remove crew which are not exactly credited as presented in that column. Luckily I can keep them local, but it really saddenst me it prevents us to share them.


No No - I agree totally with this rule. Make sure that every role is checked and if it differs by one full stop then it should be removed at once! In fact, check that the credit is exactly the same font as well as in the guidance notes..

Paul
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRHo
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 2,759
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting pauls42:
Quote:
Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet:
Quote:
Quoting EnryWiki:
Quote:
"Production Rerecording" is not listed in the Credits table though. And the Rule says

Quote:
For each category, include only those people credited with the roles listed in the "Film Credits to Include" column. If someone is not credited with one of these roles, do not include them in the Crew section.

Of all the rules this must be the one I hate the most. While I understand it needs to be there, it also gives users enough fuel to remove crew which are not exactly credited as presented in that column. Luckily I can keep them local, but it really saddenst me it prevents us to share them.


No No - I agree totally with this rule. Make sure that every role is checked and if it differs by one full stop then it should be removed at once! In fact, check that the credit is exactly the same font as well as in the guidance notes..


And of course the same language!

EDIT: BTW if we would follow this rule to the letter (ignoring the fact that there is no "Film Credits to Include" column at all ) we could not even add a role like "written and directed by" because it is neither "written by" nor "directed by".
 Last edited: by RHo
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next