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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorRander
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I just looked in my reputation page and I had 1 vote too ... positive 

I had actually voted NO to a submission but did give what I believed was a valid reason and apparently the submittor thought so too. I think I am going to like this system. Will keep the badgering to a minimum ... 

If yopu click on the bold text where it says "1 forum post/contribution note", you can actually see which post/note gave you that vote. It seems you can not see who gave you the vote(s), which is IMHO a Good Thing<tm>!
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Is the reputation thing just a private thing? I do not see anything in a post that indicates anything.

No, not until you get a certain amount of votes - then you'll see the same icon next to the username in the posts. I believe Kathy has got one, if you find one opf her posts...
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It's private, you don't see who voted for your post. But if you have a good reputation, you'll get a star in your profile, like Kathy has.

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Is the reputation thing just a private thing? I do not see anything in a post that indicates anything.

It's private if you vote on a post or on a contribution note; however, since the only person who can vote for or against a contribution vote is the contributor, such a reputation vote is not private. In other words, if you get a reputation vote for a vote comment that you gave, you will know it came from the contributor.

Since we can all see the vote comments, I think we should all be able to vote on them and not just the contributor, but that's not the way it's currently set up.
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Perhaps we should just go the chat room...

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Is the reputation thing just a private thing? I do not see anything in a post that indicates anything.

No, not until you get a certain amount of votes - then you'll see the same icon next to the username in the posts. I believe Kathy has got one, if you find one opf her posts...


You are correct ... she has a GOLD star ... KEWL! 
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Is the reputation thing just a private thing? I do not see anything in a post that indicates anything.

It's private if you vote on a post or on a contribution note; however, since the only person who can vote for or against a contribution vote is the contributor, such a reputation vote is not private. In other words, if you get a reputation vote for a vote comment that you gave, you will know it came from the contributor.

Since we can all see the vote comments, I think we should all be able to vote on them and not just the contributor, but that's not the way it's currently set up.


May I ask why you think anyone should be able to vote on a comment?

I think the person who is contributing it should be the only one. I do not see what advantage it would be for anyone else to be able to vote for or against a comment ... at least when it comes to a contribution such as a scan ... not necessarily a comment in a forum.
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I think the person who is contributing it should be the only one. I do not see what advantage it would be for anyone else to be able to vote for or against a comment ... at least when it comes to a contribution such as a scan ... not necessarily a comment in a forum.

If a voter insults someone in their vote comment, all other voters can read it and it affects everyone's experience in the forum. I think they should be permitted to rate those comments also.

Also, as a contributor, I would rather that other voters judge the reputation value of a vote comment. It's a pretty tough conflict of interest for the contributor to fairly judge a vote comment. Yes, it can be done. But it's just a tough spot to be in.
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Also, as a contributor, I would rather that other voters judge the reputation value of a vote comment. It's a pretty tough conflict of interest for the contributor to fairly judge a vote comment. Yes, it can be done. But it's just a tough spot to be in.

I thought it would be a bad idea, but you have a good point there... Maybe we (well, you) should suggest it to Ken?
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I think the person who is contributing it should be the only one. I do not see what advantage it would be for anyone else to be able to vote for or against a comment ... at least when it comes to a contribution such as a scan ... not necessarily a comment in a forum.

If a voter insults someone in their vote comment, all other voters can read it and it affects everyone's experience in the forum. I think they should be permitted to rate those comments also.

Also, as a contributor, I would rather that other voters judge the reputation value of a vote comment. It's a pretty tough conflict of interest for the contributor to fairly judge a vote comment. Yes, it can be done. But it's just a tough spot to be in.


I see where you are coming from ... but I wonder if that would be fair.

What I mean is if a person says something that may be offensive to the contributor, he can get 1 negative vote from that contributor. If a bunch of people read the post and felt offended in some way and all could give negative votes, the person who may have said something offensive would get enough votes to possibly get him banned.

The reason I do not feel that this would be a good thing is because the person may have just had a bad day or wahtever and should not necessarily be punished that fierce for one post.

If he were to continue and get enough negatives to get him banned ... then you know he was out of line. To get banned by a single vote for each post would mean he is really out of line.

I hope I explained that okay. 
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I see where you are coming from ... but I wonder if that would be fair.

What I mean is if a person says something that may be offensive to the contributor, he can get 1 negative vote from that contributor. If a bunch of people read the post and felt offended in some way and all could give negative votes, the person who may have said something offensive would get enough votes to possibly get him banned.

The reason I do not feel that this would be a good thing is because the person may have just had a bad day or wahtever and should not necessarily be punished that fierce for one post.

If he were to continue and get enough negatives to get him banned ... then you know he was out of line. To get banned by a single vote for each post would mean he is really out of line.

I hope I explained that okay. 

It's really no different than it would be if a user insults another user in the open forum. The insulter may get multiple negative reputation votes for that one public post.
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What I mean is if a person says something that may be offensive to the contributor, he can get 1 negative vote from that contributor. If a bunch of people read the post and felt offended in some way and all could give negative votes, the person who may have said something offensive would get enough votes to possibly get him banned.

So? If you write something offensive towards me here on the forum, then everybody can vote on it, not just me. How does a voting comment differ from a forum post?
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What I mean is if a person says something that may be offensive to the contributor, he can get 1 negative vote from that contributor. If a bunch of people read the post and felt offended in some way and all could give negative votes, the person who may have said something offensive would get enough votes to possibly get him banned.

So? If you write something offensive towards me here on the forum, then everybody can vote on it, not just me. How does a voting comment differ from a forum post?


I am not sure how it would differ. I just feel someone could get ganged up on by everyone being able to vote and could possibly get banned for one bad post ... versus numerous ... not that either case would be right.

I guess what I am saying is everyone has had a bad day now and then and sometimes might say something that might be offensive. I do not see a need to punish them in one fell swoop.
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So? If you write something offensive towards me here on the forum, then everybody can vote on it, not just me. How does a voting comment differ from a forum post?


I am not sure how it would differ. I just feel someone could get ganged up on by everyone being able to vote and could possibly get banned for one bad post ... versus numerous ... not that either case would be right.

I guess what I am saying is everyone has had a bad day now and then and sometimes might say something that might be offensive. I do not see a need to punish them in one fell swoop.

While I agree with you, I still don't see how this could not happen in a forum post rather than in a comment.

Still, when you start at the normal reputation level, you need to go two levels down before you are hit with restrictions - and you need more then one vote to rise/fall a level.

So no, I very much doubt that a single post could earn you enough negative points to get slapped into the deep...
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I just noticed something.

I went to another post in another forum. I was reading some answers and noticed that the icons were there for the reputation vote.

I thought those could only be seen by the orginal poster. I clicked on a POSITIVE one because I thought his answer was very good and helpful ... but I have used up my 5 votes for the day and I was not able to submit my vote so I do not know if it would have worked or not.

I was NOT the original posted of the article I was reading.
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So? If you write something offensive towards me here on the forum, then everybody can vote on it, not just me. How does a voting comment differ from a forum post?


I am not sure how it would differ. I just feel someone could get ganged up on by everyone being able to vote and could possibly get banned for one bad post ... versus numerous ... not that either case would be right.

I guess what I am saying is everyone has had a bad day now and then and sometimes might say something that might be offensive. I do not see a need to punish them in one fell swoop.

While I agree with you, I still don't see how this could not happen in a forum post rather than in a comment.

Still, when you start at the normal reputation level, you need to go two levels down before you are hit with restrictions - and you need more then one vote to rise/fall a level.

So no, I very much doubt that a single post could earn you enough negative points to get slapped into the deep...


Well ... if you posted and say 20 people voted a NEGATIVE to you ... would that not be enough?

Or do you only get 1 negative for a post ... no matter how many times you get voted on in the same post?
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