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Parsing of Mos Def
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Hi,

I'm contributing a an update to the UK profile of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (both the limited edition box set and the regular version)

In one of them, the actor Mos Def is parsed Mos Def// and in the other Mos//Def.

What do you think is the correct way to parse his name?
His official site is located here: http://mosdef.com/
Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mos_Def
In the commentaries for the movie, they call him by the name Mos, not Mos Def. The sources I listed have him as 'Mos', 'Def' and 'Mos Def'

Should Mos be his first name and Def his last name or should all be parsed as one since it is also a stage name? (I'm inclined to parse it as Mos//Def, since stage names like John Wayne is parsed that way)

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reybr

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'Mos Def' is short for "most definitely" and is a stage name.  As such, it should be parsed 'Mos Def/ / '.

Yes, 'John Wayne' is a stage name and should be parsed as 'John Wayne/ / '.  For whatever reason, it was decided that we treat stage names that sound like 'real' names as real names.  I don't ask why any more. 
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Most definitly "Mos Def", all as the first name.
BTW, he's by far my favorite rapper turned actor. After seeing "16 Blocks" then "Something the Lord Made" I'll give him a chance in anything. Hopefully he won't pull an LL Cool J and start using his real name to confuse this and other databases.
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Case closed. Only one agreeing with me (If it wasn't a sympathy vote  )
Thanks for your input

EDIT: Bah, when you search for Mos Def// in the DVD Profiler cast window, you will not find him when you type anything more than Mos. Annoying

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Case closed. Only one agreeing with me (If it wasn't a sympathy vote  )
Thanks for your input

EDIT: Bah, when you search for Mos Def// in the DVD Profiler cast window, you will not find him when you type anything more than Mos. Annoying


That just means he isn't in your actor db.  I had to use the 'Add Cast Member' feature when I audited '16 Blocks'.  It is not an uncommon thing to happen.
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No Unicus, he is in my actors DB
I have two Mos Def's there. (Mos//Def and Mos Def//). When I got to edit a movie and search for Mos Def, only Mos//Def shows up. If however I search for only Mos, both of them will show

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No Unicus, he is in my actors DB
I have two Mos Def's there. (Mos//Def and Mos Def//). When I got to edit a movie and search for Mos Def, only Mos//Def shows up. If however I search for only Mos, both of them will show

Yes, this is a bug in the DVDProfiler searches. Many people have asked for this to be fixed, but so far Ken does not feel it needs fixing. The other major flaw in the searches is having 'e' not match 'é'.

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No Unicus, he is in my actors DB
I have two Mos Def's there. (Mos//Def and Mos Def//). When I got to edit a movie and search for Mos Def, only Mos//Def shows up. If however I search for only Mos, both of them will show


Hmm, that is interesting.  Thanks for the heads up.  I had not experienced this myself.
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It's because DVD Profiler assumes that a space is a name field separator. So for Mos it will find everyone whose first or last name begins with Mos (I think middle name is spared) and for Mos Def it will find everyone whose first name begins with Mos and whose last name begins with Def.
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It's because DVD Profiler assumes that a space is a name field separator. So for Mos it will find everyone whose first or last name begins with Mos (I think middle name is spared) and for Mos Def it will find everyone whose first name begins with Mos and whose last name begins with Def.

Therfore we could argue that "Mos//Def" is the more practical entry to the database.
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Most definitly "Mos Def", all as the first name.
BTW, he's by far my favorite rapper turned actor. After seeing "16 Blocks" then "Something the Lord Made" I'll give him a chance in anything.

I first saw him in "The Woodsman". Fantastic. The guy is definitely talented as an actor. I'm not really into hiphop, but his rap skills are awesome.
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