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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,911 |
| Posted: | | | | How are you poeple seriously voting no? You really weant the WRONG images in the DB? I've seen you all aruge for this more often than not, and now you all are flip-flopping, | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 278 |
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ignore me. | | | Guns don't kill people. Hammers do. | | | Last edited: by Kevin Coed |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 4,596 |
| Posted: | | | | I think they'd rather keep the re-release images that are sharp and clear than replace them with something that is way too soft, dark and illegible. Just my opinion...your mileage may vary. | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 278 |
| Posted: | | | | I've voted incorrectly......
Didn't realise the incorrect scans got through.... | | | Guns don't kill people. Hammers do. |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,918 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote: I think they'd rather keep the re-release images that are sharp and clear than replace them with something that is way too soft, dark and illegible. Just my opinion...your mileage may vary. They should vote YES and then lock the cover on their local database. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 4,596 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr. Killpatient: Quote: Quoting 8ballMax:
Quote: I think they'd rather keep the re-release images that are sharp and clear than replace them with something that is way too soft, dark and illegible. Just my opinion...your mileage may vary. They should vote YES and then lock the cover on their local database. True enough...but tell them not me. I neither own that UPC nor did I vote on it . Just saying that that is probably the way they are thinking. | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 810 |
| Posted: | | | | There have been a few submissions over the last week or so of new scans for this profile. In each case the notes say 'Sharper Images' and it just is not true. My guess would be that the scans were resized, which can often make them fuzzy. Yes they are the 'right' scans, but they are not as sharp as the current scans.
I have the re-release version so I voted 'neutral'.
pdf | | | Paul Francis San Juan Capistrano, CA, USA |
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Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,621 |
| Posted: | | | | I was just about to start a thread about this, seeing how it's my scans that keep getting dissed. Ironicaly, the second try I had 33 yeahs and 3 nays, with the nays all saying the blacks were off. I would think the proper first release cover would trump some slightly grey blacks, but it was denied. Now I've lost sharpness but have solid blacks and it's 11/11. I give up as no one likes my scans but me and what must be my FUBAR monitor (all my offerings look great here, maybe I'll invite everyone over to look sometime ). Can someone who has the proper cover [717951005786, it's on the right] and a scanner people like just get this set right? I tried 3 times so I must be out. Technically I've only been declined once, but the first attempt the votes showed no reason to bother letting it go to the mods. Same with this last attempt which I'm about to withdrawl so as not to waste any more time. |
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Registered: May 9, 2007 | Posts: 254 |
| Posted: | | | | One thing that might help is if you size the image in Photoshop to the size that it will be in the online database (I don't know the numbers off the top of my head, sorry) and THEN run unsharp mask. If you sharpen an image that has a considerably larger pixel dimensions before you (or the contibution system) down-sizes it, your sharpening will be less effective.
(BTW, I voted incorrectly on this and am going to change it now. ) | | | "I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world because they'd never expect it." - Jack Handey |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,918 |
| Posted: | | | | Submitted photos should be no greater than 500x700 and 200,000 bytes. If you exceed those values, the image is resized.
Not sure if the resize takes place in DVDP or on the web server. If in DVDP, you need the latest beta to fit the file size limit
But if you're submitting the original release covers, you may want to resubmit it saying such right at the start of the contribution notes. Even if you have 100% NO votes, it should still be accepted because the current scan is not the correct scan. |
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Registered: March 18, 2007 | Posts: 130 |
| Posted: | | | | Well basically the same thing with my submission for Masters of Horror set, the images is not fully sharp due to the recessing of the package but it is the only actual cover art submitted I have two votes against it, leaveing the pre-release ad-art in our data base its not even a full head on picture. P.S if someone was able to get a sharper picture I be more then happy to vote for it. |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 585 |
| Posted: | | | | Don't worry too much about the votes on images all that much. Just document as much as possible in the notes, state the current covers do NOT match the real cover art, and explain why you think yours are better. The voters can say whatever they want, but there's only 1 person who will look at your notes and decide whether to Accept or Decline it. | | | "Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men" - Douglas Bader "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams |
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Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,621 |
| Posted: | | | | In my second submission I did make it clear right off that they were the proper covers, gave examples pointing out the slight differences and sound theories as to how that proved them correct (me buying day of release, ratings box a newer thing, missing Dolby word in specs, obvilous stuff), had 92% of the vote including many with a "proper cover" note, and still they got declined. I get the feeling that in a swarm of submissions whoever does the final O.K. on covers read the "no" votes, then did a quick once over and agreed my blacks sucked. All other evidence was there so this is the only way I can make sense of leaving the wrong covers up. I may try once more but really don't feel like it now. I know the compression is hurting me but scanning at 300 is what works best for my scanner, the scans I've done at 100 look hit but I guess I could try that and hope it turns out different. Oh no, that's the definition of insanity! | | | Last edited: by bigdaddyhorse |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 810 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote: ... I know the compression is hurting me but scanning at 300 is what works best for my scanner, the scans I've done at 100 look hit but I guess I could try that and hope it turns out different. Oh no, that's the definition of insanity! I also scan at about 300dpi, but then I resize to <500 by <700 and then run a 'sharp' filter on the image. I then copy it into DVDProfiler and then submit it. I then go back and do the resize down to ~650 by 925 for my local copy, which is a great size for my display. If you let the system resize your submission it will get fuzzy! pdf | | | Paul Francis San Juan Capistrano, CA, USA |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,203 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting pplchamp: Quote: How are you poeple seriously voting no? You really weant the WRONG images in the DB? I've seen you all aruge for this more often than not, and now you all are flip-flopping, The rule for cover scans start with this sentence: Before submitting new scans of cover art, make sure your new covers are of significantly higher quality than the existing online images, and meet the following criteria:The new images are NOT of significantly higher quality. Because of that, I am voting 'no'. The reason for the new scans being submitted is this portion of the rule: If a title is re-released with the same UPC, but different cover images do not contribute the new images.For me, this does not trump the 'significantly higher quality' portion of the rule. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,918 |
| Posted: | | | | The "significantly higher quality" rule doesn't apply when the existing cover is wrong. |
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