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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,436 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | Achim [諾亞信； Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
Registered: May 29, 2000 (at InterVocative) |
| | Registered: April 14, 2007 |  Posts: 433 |
| | Posted: | | | | Removing possessives that ARE NOT part of the title DOES NOT mess up sorting. At least not for me. That is what the SORT TITLE field everyone's local database is for. I generally have to change the SORT TITLE field on every TV Series profile I download, otherwise Season Two is sorted after Season Three unless I change the Sort title to Season 2 and 3 respectively. I don't complain or want the rules changed to have season titles use numbers instead. Does it annoy me that I have to make this change every time? A little, but I don't feel I should try and force my preference on the community as a whole, when my preference isn't supported by the way things are done. | | | | Chris |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 445 |
| | Posted: | | | | The rules are there...just contribute and don't worry about Skip's lone, irrelavant 'no' vote people! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 462 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm not sure what this argument is about, and I really don't frankly care to read the posts...but this movie has ALWAYS been billed as "Stephen King's It" from the very first time it was televised. | | | "I am Andrew Ryan and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow?
No, says the man in Washington. It belongs to the poor.
No, says the man in the Vatican. It belongs to God.
No, says the man in Moscow. It belongs to everyone.
I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose…
Rapture." |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 462 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
LOL, for a title lookup the US Copyright Office is the ultimate authority relative to how any title has been coyrighted by those that hold said rights. We are also allowed to use even IMDb as a REFERENCE source, we cannot copy from another website and IMDb as a reference source is highly questionable on its own.
Skip Um....what? You've always went by the film itself. Since when are you going by the copyright office? You can't change your source mid-stream. | | | "I am Andrew Ryan and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow?
No, says the man in Washington. It belongs to the poor.
No, says the man in the Vatican. It belongs to God.
No, says the man in Moscow. It belongs to everyone.
I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose…
Rapture." |
| | Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 663 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting chibul: Quote:
Quoting skipnet50:
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LOL, for a title lookup the US Copyright Office is the ultimate authority relative to how any title has been coyrighted by those that hold said rights. We are also allowed to use even IMDb as a REFERENCE source, we cannot copy from another website and IMDb as a reference source is highly questionable on its own.
Skip
Um....what?
You've always went by the film itself. Since when are you going by the copyright office? You can't change your source mid-stream. I thought it was always, "You shouldn't change horses in mid-stream." Sorry I couldn't resist. I believe that quote is from "Wag the Dog." | | | We're on a mission from God.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 462 |
| | Posted: | | | | Why did this thread go five pages? This is incredibly simple. I was wrong, as well. The rule says: Quote:
# Include possessives if the front cover includes them, and if they are verifiably part of the title. If quotes surround the title in the credit block (generally on the back cover), check whether the possessive is within the quotes. In the absence of quotes to verify, check the font size used for the title on the front cover. Generally, possessives which use a significantly smaller font are not part of the title.
# Possessive examples: "Tim Burton's Corpse Bride", John Carpenter's "The Thing". In each case, the portion within quotes is the title. Checking the back of my copy, it says Quote:
Stephen King's "It" Therefore, the title is "It". Simple. Easy. Period. | | | "I am Andrew Ryan and I am here to ask you a question:
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow?
No, says the man in Washington. It belongs to the poor.
No, says the man in the Vatican. It belongs to God.
No, says the man in Moscow. It belongs to everyone.
I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something
different. I chose the impossible. I chose…
Rapture." |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
You have been playing by your rules for a LOOOOONG time, James. How many time have you and argued over YOUR interpretation of the Rules. I am simply doing what you have always done, that is my interpretation of the rules and just like YOU there is no room for any other. I am tired of watching you twist and spin the Rules to suit your whims. YTou went off the cliff a long time agoi, my friend. as i said this is not a game I want to play, but your attitude and that of others have forced it. I could throw all kinds of things at you, James but its a waste of time and energy. In your mind ther is and always has been ONE single answer, and it is yours, I continue to lead by example, my Contributions always have been and will Continue to be among the highest caliber and best documented there are. Sorry guys, I didn't ask for this YOU have pushed me to it.
Skip After the initial contribution of profiles here at Invelos, I have had exactly one decline. It was an issue of how to deal with unmarked uncredited. I've adjusted how I handle those and have had complete success ever since. On every single contribution of mine for which you have voted 'no', they have all been accepted. You like to talk facts instead of fiction. There it is. I'm not the one that went over the cliff. And we didn't push you. You jumped quite inexplicably. Oh, well. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
I am playing by your Rules guys, Live with it. I am fed up with watching you people interpret the REules to suit yourselves. and the act like YOUR interpretation is the ONLY interpretation there could possibly be James you have been doing this for a very long time, DO NOT was simply the straw that broke the camel's back.
I have simply decided to play the game YOUR way, so like I said LIVE BY THE SWORD, now DIE BY IT.
Skip You are playing by your own rules...something you have always done. There is only one interpretation to this rule. I have given you rational, logical, reasons to show how your interpretation is incorrect. You have yet to respond in kind. You constantly say that you are up for civil, logical, debate. Weill, here is your chance. Put up or shut up. Give us a logical reason as to why your interpretation is the correct one. I don't believe you can, but I am willing to be surprised. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Boy you people don't like it one bit when I play by your Rules...do you. Such one-dimensional thinkers.  My rules, as with all parsers, are the rules of grammar. You are not playing by those rules.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: August 7, 2007 |  Posts: 185 |
| | Posted: | | | | This was actually quite fun to read for the first few pages, but now it's just plain pointless. I'm beginning to understand why so many of us newcomers tend to keep quiet here in the forums...  |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
LOL, for a title lookup the US Copyright Office is the ultimate authority relative to how any title has been coyrighted by those that hold said rights. We are also allowed to use even IMDb as a REFERENCE source, we cannot copy from another website and IMDb as a reference source is highly questionable on its own.
Skip But, Ken has not asked us to enter the "Copyrighted Title" into the title field. He said "ENTER THE TITLE FROM THE FRONT COVER". For posssesives he said "TO CHECK THE CREDIT BLOCK ON THE BACK COVER". No where has he said to check the Copyright Office for anything. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 810 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Quoting skipnet50:
Quote:
LOL, for a title lookup the US Copyright Office is the ultimate authority relative to how any title has been coyrighted by those that hold said rights. We are also allowed to use even IMDb as a REFERENCE source, we cannot copy from another website and IMDb as a reference source is highly questionable on its own.
Skip
But, Ken has not asked us to enter the "Copyrighted Title" into the title field. He said "ENTER THE TITLE FROM THE FRONT COVER".
For posssesives he said "TO CHECK THE CREDIT BLOCK ON THE BACK COVER".
No where has he said to check the Copyright Office for anything. No need to shout Hal, all of us but Skip can hear you! And he is not trying! pdf | | | Paul Francis
San Juan Capistrano, CA, USA |
| | Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | The new contribution now has 100% yes votes. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | OK let's look at some blatant and outright HYPOCRISY displayed by many here. Why do I say many...because many of you participated in the DO NOT issue. The Rule is clear, but it was twisted and spun to allow for a 4 cent change in SRP, despite the prohibition under the guise of....ACCURACY after all the user had ontained THE SRP from the Distributor. So we MUST have an ACCURATE SRP but NOT an ACCURATE title....sorry peopple it doesn't washand it is hypocritical to pretend otherwise. Skip  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 844 |
| | Posted: | | | | So....you are using other people's alleged bevaviour to excuse your own willful and stubborn refusal to follow some very clear rules. Have fun with that hole you are digging yourself. |
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