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Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,449 |
| Posted: | | | | Thanks again to all. I guess my most important takeaway is that it is best to chose a device where the manufacturer has a track record and process for firmware upgrades, where possible. Best way to protect the massive financial investment (I use that word loosely) that the industry requires. | | | Thanks for your support. Free Plugins available here. Advanced plugins available here. Hey, new product!!! BDPFrog. | | | Last edited: by mediadogg |
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Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | Good call! Technology is moving so fast right now that there is no way to be fully future-proof, so indeed the best thing you can do is go for a brand with a good reputation for continued firmware support. | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,449 |
| Posted: | | | | Ok, I think I've got it. The Oppo non-All-region, connected directly to my LG TV, and my a/v receiver plugged into the Oppo HDMI input. Problems solved: - Oppo HDMI input will scale anything coming thru my a/v receiver to 4K - Oppo will play any current and forthcoming UHD / HDR Blu-Ray format and all audio modes - All-region support from my iVid, which works well for me, is retained. I will not be purchasing 4K materal outside of my region, so the Oppo is overkill for the all-region feature. The iVid plays Blu-Ray and all DVDs very well. - Oppo direct access to my data servers will allow playback of native 4K content - 4K Apps (VUDU, YouTiube, Netflix and Amazon) from the LG TV, or 4K media player. - If I need more 4K inputs I will put a switcher in front of the Oppo input later - least cost immediate purchase with maximum impact. I can schedule the purchase of other components when / if I have the funds, and meanwhile the excellent Oppo firmware upgrade policy helps protect me from the industry movements. I might be able to get Oppo into the budget next month. Anybody see any holes in my plan? | | | Thanks for your support. Free Plugins available here. Advanced plugins available here. Hey, new product!!! BDPFrog. | | | Last edited: by mediadogg |
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Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | Sounds like a plan! You've worked it out really well! You'll be needing the iVid only for blu-rays and DVDs from other regions. I'd say: use the Oppo for all discs from your own region. And FYI: UHD discs are NOT region coded, so a region coded Oppo will play all of those, no matter where they come from. More good news: Oppo has just released new beta firmware which should largely solve problems with signals fed through its HDMI input. The only unsolved issue, as far as I can see, is that you do not have two HDMI video outputs, but at present there is no UHD player which has that, so there's no good solution for that. I think you've got all bases covered! ![](/images/emoticons/beam.gif) |
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Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,449 |
| Posted: | | | | Yes, thanks mostly to you and the others who responded. Saved me lots of grief and possibility of wasting money. I can do without the dual HDMI until I upgrade my projector - way down the road. Then I'll just use the best HDMI 4K splitter available at that time. Thanks again to all!! | | | Thanks for your support. Free Plugins available here. Advanced plugins available here. Hey, new product!!! BDPFrog. |
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Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | Glad I could help! ![](/images/emoticons/thumbup.gif) |
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Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: ![High Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/1.png) | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | It depends how capable your current receiver is. Does it support ARC and 3D? | | | Last edited: by Ace_of_Sevens |
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Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,449 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote: It depends how capable your current receiver is. Does it support ARC and 3D? Yes, Onkyo TX-3008. The main HDMI output has ARC and 3D, which will then be fed to the Oppo input. Thanks for checking. | | | Thanks for your support. Free Plugins available here. Advanced plugins available here. Hey, new product!!! BDPFrog. |
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Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | If you connect your receiver to the Oppo's HDMI input, I don't think 3D is an issue, as the Oppo can transmit a 3D video signal directly to your TV. The Oppo itself can play 3D blu-rays and 3D files.
You may want to think, however, about how to feed your receiver with audio from the Oppo. If you use the Oppo's HDMI audio-only out, you would in fact be creating a HDMI loop with audio signals going both in and out of the Oppo. I'm not sure that will work, but you can try. What you can do is to use the Oppo's analog outs and connect those to your receiver to transmit your Oppo's sound to the receiver, I reckon. You would lose Dolby Atmos and DTS-X, but not hi-def audio. Audio from the TV - e.g. the Netflix app on the TV - can go into your receiver using either ARC or an optical cable - at present ARC does not support hi-def audio anyway, so you lose nothing by going optical. (I use it myself to get TV sound into my receiver). | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | Right now I'm too tired to clearly think about the audio side of your proposed setup with the receiver feeding the Oppo (time for bed here in Europe). You could contact Oppo support to find out if that will work - seems they're very helpful (never needed them myself, so I have no direct experience). |
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Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,449 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote: If you connect your receiver to the Oppo's HDMI input, I don't think 3D is an issue, as the Oppo can transmit a 3D video signal directly to your TV. The Oppo itself can play 3D blu-rays and 3D files.
You may want to think, however, about how to feed your receiver with audio from the Oppo. If you use the Oppo's HDMI audio-only out, you would in fact be creating a HDMI loop with audio signals going both in and out of the Oppo. I'm not sure that will work, but you can try. What you can do is to use the Oppo's analog outs and connect those to your receiver to transmit your Oppo's sound to the receiver, I reckon. You would lose Dolby Atmos and DTS-X, but not hi-def audio. Audio from the TV - e.g. the Netflix app on the TV - can go into your receiver using either ARC or an optical cable - at present ARC does not support hi-def audio anyway, so you lose nothing by going optical. (I use it myself to get TV sound into my receiver). Since all of my inputs go into the receiver, the audio will come out as normal, when the receiver is on. When the receiver is off, I get the last selected input via the pass-thru feature, and I turn the TV volume up. The only time I need the audio from the Oppo is when I am playing directly from it. In that case, I just use my existing optical out from the LG, with the receiver switched to the Tape input, where I have assigned the optical input channel. The HDMI audio out or optical from the Oppo are other options that I will play with - again, only needed when the Oppo itself is the source and I want the receiver sound. Otherwise, everything coming from or thru the Oppo plays via the TV sound, which is actually not bad for casual listening. Thanks for double-checking my plan, but I think I'm ok ... ![](/images/emoticons/anxious.gif) | | | Thanks for your support. Free Plugins available here. Advanced plugins available here. Hey, new product!!! BDPFrog. | | | Last edited: by mediadogg |
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Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | If you use optical from the Oppo or the TV, you will lose hi-def audio such as DTS-HD MA on blu-rays - it would be reduced to basic (and lossy) DTS. You can try the Oppo's HDMI audio out - that should work if the Oppo is the source being used - but if it doesn't work you'll be better off using analog connections - that will preserve hi-def audio by using the Oppo's DAC. | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,449 |
| Posted: | | | | Oops, never mind the original post. Analog would work fine. Lots of flexibility on the Onkyo. | | | Thanks for your support. Free Plugins available here. Advanced plugins available here. Hey, new product!!! BDPFrog. | | | Last edited: by mediadogg |
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Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | I think after your clarification that you'll only be needing audio from the Oppo when you're playing directly from it, the risks I was thinking of will not materialize. Just use the Oppo's HDMI audio out for that. |
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Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | FYI: the first Dolby Vision HDR UHD discs have been announced. |
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Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,449 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote: FYI: the first Dolby Vision HDR UHD discs have been announced. Thanks. Already making plans to get the Oppo. I put he first batch of my 1080P stuff that I no longer need on Amazon, to help pay for the Oppo. | | | Thanks for your support. Free Plugins available here. Advanced plugins available here. Hey, new product!!! BDPFrog. |
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