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What is the logic behind calling a slip case with one keep case inside it a boxset, when one slip cover with one keep case inside it isn't a boxset?

Who says it can't be? If that single keepcase contains multiple discs/films then it's a box set.

No! It's the old "profile type" against "case type" again: if it has multiple discs it's "profile type" may well be a "box set", but it's still packaged in a keep case. Ergo: case type "keep case".

I was unaware he was referring to "casetype". I know it's a stinking keepcase as case type.

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What is the logic behind calling a slip case with one keep case inside it a boxset, when one slip cover with one keep case inside it isn't a boxset?

No logic really, just a way Invelos (or IVS) decided to name the case types.

Slip Covers are ignored.
Slip Cases are profiled. What is confusing is the fact is that it's called Box Set, a term which is also used for the way we profile sets with multiple films. Rather unfortunate.

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Not true! Neither Invelos nor IVS ever decided to name these case types: as I pointed out earlier, the terms "slip case" and "slip cover" neither appear in the rules nor in the software. I agree that the rules do point to a forum-thread, for "further information" and "the opportunity to ask questions" (quoted from the rules), but at no point did Invelos indicate that we are to handle "slip covers" and "slip cases" - whatever the difference may be - differently.

Of course they didn't name the case types. What they did was adding the case type Slip Case to the list, but name it Box Set.

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Well, not by me they're not.

Sad. But your choice. So actually, your collection does not have any set with the Case Type Box Set, I suppose.

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That it's unfortunate I agree with - the confusion causes a number of users to enter "box set" as case type for any set that contains multiple movies/discs, without looking at what it's actually packaged in. Luckily, in most cases the voting system will deal with this.

You are correct here. Often people blindly choose Box Set, when Clamshell (Universal's The Legacy Collection of classic horror films) or Digipak (Anchor bay's The Complete Musketeers) would be appropriate. Box Set should only be selected when a Slip case is present.

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Sad. But your choice. So actually, your collection does not have any set with the Case Type Box Set, I suppose.

As stated already in the beginning of this thread, we use Boxset only when it's a slip cover, slip case, cardboard box or whatever, which contains SEPARATELY PACKAGED contents. See the example of The Godfather Collection, which is a 'slip case' that contains not 1 but 4 separate slim digipaks.
I'm sure we even have more 'Boxset' case types than 'Digipaks', since a lot of TV series also have the episode disks packaged separately (Bones, Alias, 4400, etc...).

Again, it's an interpretation that IMHO makes much more sense. If the wrapper is not required to keep everything together: use the case type without the wrapper (since it's still a parent since it contains all disks). If the wrapper IS needed to keep everything together, i.e. all disks have their own cases, the parent has Boxset as casetype (without the wrapper, there is no parent).
I see three reasons why this is better than this slip case vs cover nonsense :
1. A single box within a slip case would never be called a Boxset. It is really ridiculous to give a keepcase that has a slip cover around it (happens quite often) the casetype 'boxset'. It is not a set, and you can throw away the box without it being a loss.
2. There is virtually no difference between a slip case and slip cover. Just because one happens to have the extra opening, doesn't make it signifantly different. And what would you do with Bones, which is a slip case with extra see-through holes, even in the spine...
3. It perfectly covers the children-with-different-casetypes case. It would be a Boxset. With the current rules, it would only be a box set if it has a slip case, but with a slip cover, it would all of a sudden be 'custom' just because the children have a different casetype, otherwise it would have the casetype of the children. Makes no sense.

So two Slip Cases are profiles differently? The shell of one box set (The Godfather, a Slip Case containing several separate digipaks) is different to the shell of another one (Alien Quadrilogy, a Slip Case containing a fold-out digipak)? Where is a "clear cut" common sense in that


It obviously need clarification, requiring a program adjustment. Let's close this thread.

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Sad. But your choice. So actually, your collection does not have any set with the Case Type Box Set, I suppose.

As stated already in the beginning of this thread, we use Boxset only when it's a slip cover, slip case, cardboard box or whatever, which contains SEPARATELY PACKAGED contents. See the example of The Godfather Collection, which is a 'slip case' that contains not 1 but 4 separate slim digipaks.
I'm sure we even have more 'Boxset' case types than 'Digipaks', since a lot of TV series also have the episode disks packaged separately (Bones, Alias, 4400, etc...).

So, you're trying to tell me that Season 3, for instance, of '24' isn't a box set because it holds the individual discs in a digipack?  That's ludicrous.

I will say it again:  The wording in the program needs to be updated to eliminate this confusion over box sets, else we will keep having this discussion over, and over, and over, and over again -- every time a newbie comes along and gets confused.  Allowing that to continue is simply stupid.

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So, you're trying to tell me that Season 3, for instance, of '24' isn't a box set because it holds the individual discs in a digipack?  That's ludicrous.

No, he's not. He's saying that the CASE TYPE isn't a box set.

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Sad. But your choice. So actually, your collection does not have any set with the Case Type Box Set, I suppose.

As stated already in the beginning of this thread, we use Boxset only when it's a slip cover, slip case, cardboard box or whatever, which contains SEPARATELY PACKAGED contents. See the example of The Godfather Collection, which is a 'slip case' that contains not 1 but 4 separate slim digipaks.
I'm sure we even have more 'Boxset' case types than 'Digipaks', since a lot of TV series also have the episode disks packaged separately (Bones, Alias, 4400, etc...).

Indeed! I probably own over a hundred sets that have "box set" as case type - purely based on the packaging, that is, not just "profile type" box sets. I also own quite a large number of digipaks (I'd say around two hundred) - some in "slip cases", some in "slip covers". All are correctly named "digipak", though, and not just in my local database, but also in the online db. Never before have I encountered someone who proposed to change "digipak" to "box set" based on which way the outer box - whatever you call it - slides off the contents, and I trust I never will.

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we use Boxset only when it's a slip cover, slip case, cardboard box or whatever, which contains SEPARATELY PACKAGED contents. See the example of The Godfather Collection, which is a 'slip case' that contains not 1 but 4 separate slim digipaks.