Quoting surfeur51:

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Really i don't see the interest to contribute a mistake knowing that everybody will have to correct it.

Those rules are making people loose their common sense. Nobody would have in normal life the incredible attitude we see here because the RULES  are more important than anything else on Earth .

Simply see it this way: Just remember what we are doing here - we are profiling information from DVDs and their packages and try to reflect these informations as good as we can in the profiles. And if there is a mistake on the back cover, it belongs in the profile, too. This has nothing to do with common sense, it's just a part of the job we do.

Quoting Unicus69:

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Now see, this is the part I just don't understand.  How hard is it to contribute the mistake, since that is what the rules say to do, and then fix it locally?

It depends on how you audit your local profiles. I submitted a fair amount of full audits for v2.x (and they did comply to the rules), but I don't bother with contributions any more, because my local profiles diverge too much from what is requested for the Online DB. I neither want spelling errors in the Overview, nor do I want an inflation of single quotes or trademark signs there; I want the DVD distributor in Studios and normalized studio names, I want top-billed actors listed first, etc.

In order to contribute profiles, I would have to waste a lot of time on maintaining a secondary set of data that is of no use to me. I rather like to spend my time more productively, and decided that I don't care anymore about the Online database. The large number of quite insane 20+ page discussions with almost no substance in both the Contribution and Contribution Rules forum made this decision fairly easy.

Quoting goodguy:

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....I rather like to spend my time more productively, and decided that I don't care anymore about the Online database. The large number of quite insane 20+ page discussions with almost no substance in both the Contribution and Contribution Rules forum made this decision fairly easy.

I was just wondering whether people became mad here, or if it was me. I'm happy to see that there are some other users who have a sound judgement.

BTW, Goodguy, thanks for your excellent plugin, that is much more useful for the community than a contribution voluntarily full of mistakes...

Quoting goodguy:

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Quoting Unicus69:

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Now see, this is the part I just don't understand.  How hard is it to contribute the mistake, since that is what the rules say to do, and then fix it locally?

It depends on how you audit your local profiles. I submitted a fair amount of full audits for v2.x (and they did comply to the rules), but I don't bother with contributions any more, because my local profiles diverge too much from what is requested for the Online DB. I neither want spelling errors in the Overview, nor do I want an inflation of single quotes or trademark signs there; I want the DVD distributor in Studios and normalized studio names, I want top-billed actors listed first, etc.

In order to contribute profiles, I would have to waste a lot of time on maintaining a secondary set of data that is of no use to me. I rather like to spend my time more productively, and decided that I don't care anymore about the Online database. The large number of quite insane 20+ page discussions with almost no substance in both the Contribution and Contribution Rules forum made this decision fairly easy.

I maintain one database, the way I like it AND I contribute based on the rules.  I prefer my studios in credit order.  I prefer top-billed actors first.  I prefer 'enter preference here'.  None of that stops me from contributing.

I audit my titles right after I watch the DVD.  I audit based on the rules and contribute.  I contribute one time and one time only.  Once I have finished contributing, I change the profile to match my preferences and lock it down.  The extra work might cost me, at the most, an additional 5 or 10 minutes.  But, because I only do a single profile at a time, it really isn't that big of a deal for me.

I agree that the rules need to be followed. But by doing so, we occasionally enter known errors: misspelled words and names, illogical grammer and punctuation... and just some strange stuff.

It might be nice (and I have no idea how this might be accomplished, sorry) if there was a way, perhaps a separate field, where a submitter (original or updating one) could enter known errors in the information. (So-and-so's name misspelled in the cast list, etc.) This way we each could see the thoughts from submitters and users and could choose to update the profile locally or not.

This could help those of us who both see oddball inconsistancies and those of us who miss some to keep our local databases without these misspellings and other weirdness.

Just a thought...

Seems to me like the only ones complaining are those that want their info to come from a third party database, (which means somebody else has done the work for them) because they are too lazy to do the contribution properly themselves.

Steve

Skip,
Just curious, you say you maintain 2 databases. How do you do it with just one copy of the software running? Let me know as I am interested in doing the same.

verdejt, as of version 3.x you can maintain as many databases as you want.  I think it was possible in version 2.x there was just more involved and it was kind of a pain.

Anyway, if you want to create a 2nd database (or as many as you like) just click File -> Open Database -> New Database.  Bam.. you now have another database to do with as you wish.