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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorDJ Doena
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Right now, I play a little bit with the source of DJ Doena's "cast'n'crew edit" - my first contact with c#. (By the way: thank you for making this open source! ) Even though I added some functions I wanted to have, there's still a lot I don't understand.


CCE2 has grown over the last decade. The code is not as readable as it used to be anymore.

But if you're missing something, let me know and I'll consider putting it in.
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Right now, I play a little bit with the source of DJ Doena's "cast'n'crew edit" - my first contact with c#. (By the way: thank you for making this open source! ) Even though I added some functions I wanted to have, there's still a lot I don't understand.


CCE2 has grown over the last decade. The code is not as readable as it used to be anymore.

But if you're missing something, let me know and I'll consider putting it in.

Well, I did it for fun - I wanted to have a look into MS Visual Studio and then one led to the other...
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantmediadogg
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So, just for grins, please describe what YOU would do with it (that you can't do now with existing tools)? Not trying to pick on you - just hoping I steer the conversation in the direction of describing what is needed - that will definitely increase the chances of getting it, right?

Well, simple:

I am currently running DVDP on my desktop computer, my laptop, my phone and my tablet.

This can cause a few problems, especially with making sure they all have the latest version of the database. Also, if changing a profile on the desktop on another profile on the laptop, you can't just simply do a database backup from one and restore it on the other - one of those changes is going to get lost!

So, what I would like is to have a simple database server. That way, I don't have to worry about keeping the four databases in sync, as there is only one database, which all four clients connects directly to!

Yes, I know the Android devices doesn't do this directly, but with the server, I don't have to worry about powering up the desktop before I can sync them.

True, I could get around some of this by simply placing the database on a NAS and let desktop and laptop connect to that directly, that still requires making sure the desktop is powered up before syncing the Android devices...

Right now, I'm at the point where I'm seriously considering buying a Asus eebox - a 200 USD, 40W small computer, to do nothing but run as a database server for DVDP...

In your scenario, you are assuming that a "simple database server" is somehow available and powered on, right?

It seems for whatever reason, that having this server on your desktop computer is not acceptable - I'm not sure why not. The server has to run on a machine somewhere.

I didn't see anything in your scenario that is not supported by DVDP today.

You could:
- Set up a shared database on your desktop
- The laptop has DVDP with shared database loaded
- Phone and tablet are synced to the desktop DVDP

There you go, main database on the desktop (database server) with the laptop, phone and tablet all using the same copy. My understanding is the main restriction is that you can't make profile updates with the laptop. I have this set up so that my phone, my tablet and all my PCs are using the same copy of the DVDP database, which happens to be running on one of my desktop servers.

Anybody see any errors in my logic here?
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorDJ Doena
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Anybody see any errors in my logic here?


For one, as you mentioned the Laptop basically works as a read-only client.

Secondly, you still need to manually update the iDevices. It's not done automatically.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorRander
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In your scenario, you are assuming that a "simple database server" is somehow available and powered on, right?

Yes - and my NAS is always available and powered on, but it runs Linux...
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It seems for whatever reason, that having this server on your desktop computer is not acceptable - I'm not sure why not. The server has to run on a machine somewhere.

True, as the desktop is not always powered on.

I do have a small Acer Aspire Revo that could do the trick, but that is being used for many other things also. Getting it to run as a service would prevent it from anyone accidentally shutting DVDP down...
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So, I think I get it. If DVDP were split into two, such that its application functions, running on Windows, and various phones and tablets, were separated from its database functions, this would allow for running the database services on a different machine - as an OS service, not a foreground application.

Now, you would still need to implement a server application. It is not enough to simply store the database file on a NAS. We can do that now. There would need to be a unix-based application that runs on a unix NAS, and a windows-based application that runs on Windows. Individuals would choose the application version based on the OS of the machine where the service is to run.

Is that what we are talking about here?

If so, I could see where Invelos could make a few extra bucks making this available for an extra fee over the basic license.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorRander
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Is that what we are talking about here?

If so, I could see where Invelos could make a few extra bucks making this available for an extra fee over the basic license.

Exactly. And I can ofcourse only speak for myself, but that would be worth a few extra bucks for me! :-)
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Yes - and my NAS is always available and powered on, but it runs Linux.

Which kind of NAS you have?
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorRander
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Yes - and my NAS is always available and powered on, but it runs Linux.

Which kind of NAS you have?

I have two - a Synology DiskStation DS107+ and a Buffalo TeraStation III.
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Yes - and my NAS is always available and powered on, but it runs Linux.

Which kind of NAS you have?

I have two - a Synology DiskStation DS107+ and a Buffalo TeraStation III.

Couldn't find specs for Buffalo TeraStation III, but
Synology DiskStation DS107:
CPU Clock Rate: 500 MHz
RAM Size: 64MB or 128MB

Are you serious that you would like to run database service on those  At work we enterprise level SAN-NAS hybrids ment for tens of thousand users and I wouldn't like to run my db even on those. My point is that NAS is ment to be NAS.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorRander
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Yes - and my NAS is always available and powered on, but it runs Linux.

Which kind of NAS you have?

I have two - a Synology DiskStation DS107+ and a Buffalo TeraStation III.

Couldn't find specs for Buffalo TeraStation III, but
Synology DiskStation DS107:
CPU Clock Rate: 500 MHz
RAM Size: 64MB or 128MB

The Buffalo:
CPU: 800 MHz Dual-Issue ARM
RAM: 512 MB
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Are you serious that you would like to run database service on those  At work we enterprise level SAN-NAS hybrids ment for tens of thousand users and I wouldn't like to run my db even on those. My point is that NAS is ment to be NAS.

Yes, I am serious. Even the DS comes with MySQL server built-in, and it works very well. Granted, it's not a speed-demon, but for a single-user setup, it's more than adequate.
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Yes, I am serious. Even the DS comes with MySQL server built-in, and it works very well. Granted, it's not a speed-demon, but for a single-user setup, it's more than adequate.

I still think that it would be very "uncool" idea 
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