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| Registered: March 10, 2007 |  Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | The effects of low ratings are automated and immediate, and require no input from an administrator. At most, abuse of the reputation feedback system will result in a temporary impact to the target, at the risk of a permanent impact to the abuser.
The thresholds for categorization will not be published and are subject to change as we tune the system. Nor would they mean much as the user's numeric score will also not be available, only the current category.
Editing posts does not result in reputation vote reversal and there is also no indication to the user of which posts generated feedback; this is a moderator function.
We've built this system to be dynamically configurable in several ways, and will monitor and tune as needed. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative | | | | Last edited: by Ken Cole |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Sounds good...and makes a lot of sense not to put specific numbers around it. Personally, I don't foresee a lot of abuse going on, since there will be consequences for that, which in my opinion should be as harsh if not harsher than the original offender. I'm really looking forward to this making a dramatic difference in the tone of the forums!  | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 24, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,044 |
| | Posted: | | | | A very good idea Ken, unfortunatly needed. | | | DVD Profiler for iOS as of 3/5/2013
DVD Profiler for Android as of 5/17/2013 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well, I have seen something similar before which devolved into a game, Ken, as people were playing not to anything other than own personal agendas, which sadly around here is the single biggest problem I see.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Does this mean someone's reputation also indicates if his/her contributions can be trusted or not? That also would be a big help, because now I constantly have to remember if an user has made good contributions in the past. Plus I think it would also encourage users to be trustworthy. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
DVD Profiler Nederlands | | | | Last edited: by Daddy DVD |
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | Martin, no the contribution accuracy tracking is distinct and we don't have plans to publish that rating information at this time. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 465 |
| | Posted: | | | | My comment: It's an absolute shame for this community that Ken's coding time had to be wasted on this (unfortunately necessary) new system.
If some users would actually grow up, or at least use their energy on improving profiles instead of hanging out in the forum all day, making nonsensical suggestions, whining about the rules or simply throwing dirt at each other, Ken's time could have been invested on actual Profiler improvements. | | | | Michael |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
Martin, no the contribution accuracy tracking is distinct and we don't have plans to publish that rating information at this time. Too bad. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
DVD Profiler Nederlands |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TigiHof: Quote:
My comment: It's an absolute shame for this community that Ken's coding time had to be wasted on this (unfortunately necessary) new system.
If some users would actually grow up, or at least use their energy on improving profiles instead of hanging out in the forum all day, making nonsensical suggestions, whining about the rules or simply throwing dirt at each other, Ken's time could have been invested on actual Profiler improvements. I daresay, I have to agree Tigi. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Sounds good...and makes a lot of sense not to put specific numbers around it.
Personally, I don't foresee a lot of abuse going on, since there will be consequences for that, which in my opinion should be as harsh if not harsher than the original offender.
I'm really looking forward to this making a dramatic difference in the tone of the forums! I have to agree with Hal here. I was worried when I first read the proposed change but, after reading what Ken has written, I think it will have a positive effect. The system can't be abused as there are penalties for abuse. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TigiHof: Quote:
My comment: It's an absolute shame for this community that Ken's coding time had to be wasted on this (unfortunately necessary) new system.
If some users would actually grow up, or at least use their energy on improving profiles instead of hanging out in the forum all day, making nonsensical suggestions, whining about the rules or simply throwing dirt at each other, Ken's time could have been invested on actual Profiler improvements. I agree with you Tigi, but nobody wants to take the first step. Since nobody is willing to give unless the other does first, we are at an impasse. I don't think Ken had any other choice. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,804 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TigiHof: Quote:
If some users would actually grow up, or at least use their energy on improving profiles instead of hanging out in the forum all day, making nonsensical suggestions, whining about the rules or simply throwing dirt at each other, Ken's time could have been invested on actual Profiler improvements. Full ACK, but sorry - I'm pretty sure that this new system will be misused even by those users who are more or less responsible for this new "feature"  | | | | Thorsten |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Especially by those, kahless. I say this based on long history of the users to which I refer, who shall remain nameless. But I will wait and see. Its Ken's baby and as always I try to follow where he goes.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | The emperor has no clothes!
Amazing. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,918 |
| | Posted: | | | | In concept, I believe this is a good plan. Having visible feedback on who is an overall helpful poster will probably inspire people to go out of their way to get this icon. Since people who abuse the system run the risk of being punished including having their ability to vote down other users removed, this should provide the balance in keeping the system as a whole from failing. But without the abuse preventive measures, I agree that the system would fail. Personally, I rather look forward to voting down spammers.  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr. Killpatient: Quote:
Since people who abuse the system run the risk of being punished including having their ability to vote down other users removed, this should provide the balance in keeping the system as a whole from failing. But without the abuse preventive measures, I agree that the system would fail. Very well said Doc. With few exceptions, I have yet to see someone attacked for a helpful post. I don't see why anyone would belive that is going to change. With the proper monitoring, people should only get 'tagged' when they deserve it. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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