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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registranttjenkins99
Registered: February 9, 2008
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I would like to thank everyone for their replies. As far as the DVDP database itself, I ran the repair and the database looks fine. I also "unselected" the extra REGIONS in the TOOLS tab and there was no change.
So, I installed DVD Profiler on my Win7 desktop at work and restored my current database. I restarted DVDP and it only took 20 seconds!!! I shut it down and restarted and again it only took about 20 seconds. On my home desktop, I installed a fresh copy of Win7 to a different partition (dual-boot) and I brought that up and installed DVDP. Now it only takes 10 seconds to start up on a bare installation. 

I believe that it is safe for me to conclude that there is something else running on my original system that is causing DVDP to take 120 seconds to start up.

When I look at the CPU Monitor gadget, about 5 or 6 cores are eating up CPU, especially cores 3 and 5 which remains constant at about 80% until DVDP is fully up.
According to Task Manager, DVDP uses 13% of the CPU to initialize.
When I shutdown DVDP the CPU monitor also goes wild and it takes about 20 seconds before DVDP is fully terminated.

I doubled the size of the paging file but that made no difference.
Also, if I go read my email or browse the web and go back to DVDP, it takes about 60 seconds for it to reload the window.
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registranttjenkins99
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I will gradually bring over my other Windows applications to my new "Win7 clean installation" one at a time. I will keep you posted as to what happens. Thanks again for all of your comments!
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Fascinating. I look forward to more news.
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Have you tried defragmenting your c: drive?

When a clean install takes much less time to load and it cannot be contributed to a slow disk etc. fragmentation on the old install is many times one of the main reasons for speed delays. (BTW another one is usually a huge clutter of temp files never deleted).

Each time you refresh for updated profiles the onlinelist.dod file is updated by the program. It resides NOT with your database files but in the (user name)\AppData\Local\DVD Profiler folder, which usually is on your c: drive. I found that with refreshing for updated profiles each day, this file already becomes heavily fragmented in 2 or 3 weeks.
If your database files have not been defragmented in along while, try those too.

If you only use the regular Win7 defragmentation this'll be slow. Personally I regularly use programs from Piriform. First CCleaner to remove the clutter of temp files and really old restores. Then Defraggler to analyse and defrag files. Since Defraggler can defrag single files, you could single out the above mentioned profiler files to try. BTW, there are of course also other defragmentation programs that can defrag on a file by file basis, but the piriform programs are the ones I use. These are freeware in the basic setup, which I find sufficient.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registranttjenkins99
Registered: February 9, 2008
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Thanks for the information. I checked the DVDP folder in AppData and most of the files were heavily fragmented as you mentioned. I used the two utilities - CCleaner and Defraggler - to clean out unused files
and defrag the DVDP files and there was no change in the startup time - still about 116 seconds. 
I have installed about 50% of my other applications to my new WIN7 install and DVDp is still initializing in about 10 seconds!!!!
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Quoting tjenkins99:
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I believe that it is safe for me to conclude that there is something else running on my original system that is causing DVDP to take 120 seconds to start up.

When I look at the CPU Monitor gadget, about 5 or 6 cores are eating up CPU, especially cores 3 and 5 which remains constant at about 80% until DVDP is fully up.
According to Task Manager, DVDP uses 13% of the CPU to initialize.
When I shutdown DVDP the CPU monitor also goes wild and it takes about 20 seconds before DVDP is fully terminated.


I'm not sure, but some Anti-virus softwares are set to check every file on opening or when something is written on the HDD. Could you check which process in the task manager is so occupied when starting profiler?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLJG
Registered: March 14, 2007
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Just wanted to thank whoever suggested turning off the regions. This has helped cut down on my load time.
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I noticed that debuglog.txt contained some interesting information.
Initializing Plugins takes 18 seconds, even though I have no plugins checked. 
Or is there something else going on that doesn't show in the log?

2013-01-17 21:57:01: Application Startup.
2013-01-17 21:57:01: Checking AppInit
2013-01-17 21:57:01: AppInit False
2013-01-17 21:57:01: Check for success
2013-01-17 21:57:01: Freeing AppRegistry
2013-01-17 21:57:01: AppRegistry Free
2013-01-17 21:57:01: Checking additional params
2013-01-17 21:57:01: Creating splash
2013-01-17 21:57:01: Splash shown. Application.Initialize processing
2013-01-17 21:57:01: Creating Main form
2013-01-17 21:57:03: Main form create starting
2013-01-17 21:57:03: Forcing directories
2013-01-17 21:57:03: Initializing threads
2013-01-17 21:57:03: Validating registration
2013-01-17 21:57:03: Loading locality list
2013-01-17 21:57:03: Reading options from registy
2013-01-17 21:57:03: Translation initializing
2013-01-17 21:57:03: Setting up layout
2013-01-17 21:57:03: Creating DataMod
2013-01-17 21:57:04: Loading online profile list
2013-01-17 21:57:13: Creating additional forms
2013-01-17 21:57:15: Retranslating Main form
2013-01-17 21:57:20: Initializing plugins
2013-01-17 21:57:38: Main form showing
2013-01-17 21:57:41: DockControlCount: 33
2013-01-17 21:57:41: Main form activating
2013-01-17 21:57:46: Freeing splash
2013-01-17 21:57:46: Running Application
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantBlair
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Registered: October 30, 2008
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The software comes with two pre-installed by Invelos (go to "Tools -> View Plugins") but still it is a bit odd that everything takes so long.

By comparison, here is mine. I have one additional plugin installed. (Now I wish i had saved a copy from an older XP system that had only 768MB or RAM. It loaded a lot slower for obvious reasons.)

1/17/2013 4:20:57 PM: Application Startup.
1/17/2013 4:20:57 PM: Checking AppInit
1/17/2013 4:20:57 PM: AppInit False
1/17/2013 4:20:57 PM: Check for success
1/17/2013 4:20:57 PM: Freeing AppRegistry
1/17/2013 4:20:57 PM: AppRegistry Free
1/17/2013 4:20:57 PM: Checking additional params
1/17/2013 4:20:57 PM: Creating splash
1/17/2013 4:20:57 PM: Splash shown. Application.Initialize processing
1/17/2013 4:20:57 PM: Creating Main form
1/17/2013 4:20:58 PM: Main form create starting
1/17/2013 4:20:58 PM: Forcing directories
1/17/2013 4:20:58 PM: Initializing threads
1/17/2013 4:20:58 PM: Validating registration
1/17/2013 4:20:58 PM: Loading locality list
1/17/2013 4:20:58 PM: Reading options from registy
1/17/2013 4:20:58 PM: Translation initializing
1/17/2013 4:20:58 PM: Setting up layout
1/17/2013 4:20:58 PM: Creating DataMod
1/17/2013 4:20:59 PM: Loading online profile list
1/17/2013 4:21:03 PM: Creating additional forms
1/17/2013 4:21:03 PM: Retranslating Main form
1/17/2013 4:21:03 PM: Initializing plugins
1/17/2013 4:21:07 PM: Main form showing
1/17/2013 4:21:08 PM: DockControlCount: 28
1/17/2013 4:21:08 PM: Main form activating
1/17/2013 4:21:09 PM: Freeing splash
1/17/2013 4:21:09 PM: Running Application
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributoreommen
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Here is my latest starting-up, with all regions checked for the online profile list:
18-1-2013 11:30:13: Application Startup.
18-1-2013 11:30:13: Checking AppInit
18-1-2013 11:30:13: AppInit False
18-1-2013 11:30:13: Check for success
18-1-2013 11:30:13: Freeing AppRegistry
18-1-2013 11:30:13: AppRegistry Free
18-1-2013 11:30:13: Checking additional params
18-1-2013 11:30:13: Creating splash
18-1-2013 11:30:13: Splash shown. Application.Initialize processing
18-1-2013 11:30:13: Creating Main form
18-1-2013 11:30:14: Main form create starting
18-1-2013 11:30:14: Forcing directories
18-1-2013 11:30:14: Initializing threads
18-1-2013 11:30:14: Validating registration
18-1-2013 11:30:14: Loading locality list
18-1-2013 11:30:14: Reading options from registy
18-1-2013 11:30:14: Translation initializing
18-1-2013 11:30:14: Setting up layout
18-1-2013 11:30:14: Creating DataMod
18-1-2013 11:30:14: Loading online profile list
18-1-2013 11:30:19: Creating additional forms
18-1-2013 11:30:20: Retranslating Main form
18-1-2013 11:30:21: Initializing plugins
18-1-2013 11:30:28: Main form showing
18-1-2013 11:30:28: DockControlCount: 32
18-1-2013 11:30:28: Main form activating
18-1-2013 11:30:31: Freeing splash
18-1-2013 11:30:31: Running Application


So, now Tjenkins99, how does it look on your private slow machine?
Eric

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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantkd5
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3.4ghz P4 Northwood w/ HT, 2gb PC3200 in dual channel configuration, 80gb WD SE IDE hard drive (84% free), NVidia GeForce 6600LE 256mb AGP, Windows XP SP3 (all updates), 21 total processes running (incl. AS/AV software), cleaned up & defragged regularly, 0% CPU usage while idle, with 659 titles (counting TV seasons as 1) DVD Profiler used to take about 35 seconds to load (dammit). 

Unchecking all but Region 1 shaved the time down a few seconds.  Did a database repair (even though there wasn't really anything wrong), DVD Profiler now takes 23 seconds to load on a fresh reboot (first time load), subsequent load times are about 15 seconds which is considerably faster than it's ever been.  I don't want to hobble DVD Profiler by doing any registry alterations, I think I can live with 23 seconds first time loading DVDP.  Glad I could shave 12 seconds off the initial load time, it seemed inordinantly long to me.      -kd5-
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Quoting GSyren:
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I noticed that debuglog.txt contained some interesting information.

Good one.

18.01.2013 18:28:21: Application Startup.
18.01.2013 18:28:21: Checking AppInit
18.01.2013 18:28:21: AppInit False
18.01.2013 18:28:21: Check for success
18.01.2013 18:28:21: Freeing AppRegistry
18.01.2013 18:28:21: AppRegistry Free
18.01.2013 18:28:21: Checking additional params
18.01.2013 18:28:21: Creating splash
18.01.2013 18:28:21: Splash shown. Application.Initialize processing
18.01.2013 18:28:21: Creating Main form
18.01.2013 18:28:23: Main form create starting
18.01.2013 18:28:23: Forcing directories
18.01.2013 18:28:23: Initializing threads
18.01.2013 18:28:23: Validating registration
18.01.2013 18:28:23: Loading locality list
18.01.2013 18:28:23: Reading options from registy
18.01.2013 18:28:23: Translation initializing
18.01.2013 18:28:23: Setting up layout
18.01.2013 18:28:23: Creating DataMod
18.01.2013 18:28:24: Loading online profile list
18.01.2013 18:28:30: Creating additional forms
18.01.2013 18:28:31: Retranslating Main form
18.01.2013 18:28:32: Initializing plugins
18.01.2013 18:28:37: Main form showing
18.01.2013 18:28:39: DockControlCount: 26
18.01.2013 18:28:39: Main form activating
18.01.2013 18:28:42: Freeing splash
18.01.2013 18:28:42: Running Application

21 seconds, 6 for the online profile list, 5 for the plugins (Collection Gallery, CSV Export, Database Query, View Flagged DVDs).
Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect]
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLJG
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Where do I find debuglog.txt? Which folder?
Lori
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
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Where do I find debuglog.txt? Which folder?

Same as the .dod files. See eommens post above.
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I'm sorry, I still don't know where that is. I also looked at eommens post and am not sure what I'm looking for that would direct me. Sorry, but I've done a search for the file name and nothing showed up, so that's why I was hoping for the folder it would be in.

Thanks for the help.
Lori
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Windows Vista and higher:

C:\Users\<your user>\AppData\Local\DVD Profiler

It's possible that you don't see "AppData" in your users folder. Click into the adress bar until it becomes plain text and simply copy the path above and replace <your user> with your actual user name.



I have currently 8 plugins active:

19.01.2013 01:40:05: Application Startup.
19.01.2013 01:40:05: Checking AppInit
19.01.2013 01:40:05: AppInit False
19.01.2013 01:40:05: Check for success
19.01.2013 01:40:05: Freeing AppRegistry
19.01.2013 01:40:05: AppRegistry Free
19.01.2013 01:40:05: Checking additional params
19.01.2013 01:40:05: Creating splash
19.01.2013 01:40:05: Splash shown. Application.Initialize processing
19.01.2013 01:40:05: Creating Main form
19.01.2013 01:40:06: Main form create starting
19.01.2013 01:40:06: Forcing directories
19.01.2013 01:40:06: Initializing threads
19.01.2013 01:40:06: Validating registration
19.01.2013 01:40:06: Loading locality list
19.01.2013 01:40:06: Reading options from registy
19.01.2013 01:40:06: Translation initializing
19.01.2013 01:40:06: Setting up layout
19.01.2013 01:40:06: Creating DataMod
19.01.2013 01:40:06: Loading online profile list
19.01.2013 01:40:10: Creating additional forms
19.01.2013 01:40:10: Retranslating Main form
19.01.2013 01:40:11: Initializing plugins
19.01.2013 01:40:18: Main form showing
19.01.2013 01:40:18: DockControlCount: 26
19.01.2013 01:40:18: Main form activating
19.01.2013 01:40:19: Freeing splash
19.01.2013 01:40:19: Running Application
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