Dear all,

For a long time now, I am getting more and more disappointed about the quality of DVD profiler's own database. Therefore I would like to have an option that make it possible to import the data from an other online source as for example IMDB.

Like today I needed to add 17 movies, but only 9 could be found in the database, that means that 8 I needed to enter every detail in manually. This means, that the databse has 47% missing movies to get the movies. Also often are the data, that can be found, far from complete and the back and front cover are the same. And I must say, I'm looking only for the movie details. So I select al regions and I don't care if the details are commin from a blu-ray or DVD.

The time, that DVD profilers intent (finding the movie by disc ID), as far I know it was the intent, is long gone already, because it's getting more and more only a movie database, then DVD database.

And if there are any restrictions in why Invelos is not willing to do so, then I would like to hear from them and expleaning what those restrictions are and why they can't do like this.

Yes I do know there's an plugin for this, but this is double job and I have try this, but this way I did loose often those data also.

Or maybe another option would be that Invelos released the database setup, so a plugin could be created to add a movie from IMDB directly without the need of going by another external programm.

If you do or don't want this, then please also mention why or why not?

The problem is, you see it as a movie database whereas other people see it as a collection database. I belong to the latter group.

So, IMBD can tell me nothing about the disc or case I have in my hot little hand. It can't tell me what the audio format is or the extra features on the disc or in fact anything about the video format etc. All imdb is good for is maybe the cast and crew, and that's only if it's information is correct. And for every profile I have contributed a cast list for (and I admit that's not many), imdb has been wrong. True it can be used as a guide and I fully support this, but you really need to check it against the credits on the movie itself.

Personally I would prefer a system where once a release has been given a cast and crew list, that this list can be automatically applied to all profiles of the same movie. So that anyone submitting subsequent dvd, blu-ray, 3d or whatever profiles already has access to an approved cast/crew list. The list of course can be changed if incorrect (using the existing voting system) and there should also be cast/crew amendments possible. This could be useful for things like extended release versions etc where the cat might include more members, or even uncredited cast etc.

Lithurge and iPatsa hit the nails on the head.

To Parsec,

I understand that it is a collection database, but the collection is based on DVD and therefore the most part is movie information plus some extra.

And I agree, that IMDB can't tell you what type of media you have on hand and such. But this can be added manually or a mix with DVD profiler database and/or IMDB. But all that IMDB already has, you don't need to fill in yourself. And also I agree, that IMDB will not be flawless, but so is also DVD profiler. I also have dvd's imported from DVD profiler where the actors name is misspeled and it looks like there are 2 actors, so you need to change this also. And like you I haven't contribute that much, because mostly I grab the information from DVD profiler. And the rest I take the information from IMDB and this I'm not allowed to contribute. I to be honest, I wonder how many people are using IMDB and enter those into DVD profiler and upload them anyway. But then it's being done by hand.

And a system like you disscibe, can help. But also here, I see lesser and lesser information for a movie/dvd anyway. Like I said before 47% I couldn't find informaton for anyway.

Quoting iPatsa:

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It's the user built database that makes DVD Profiler unique and sets it apart from all the IMDb clones out there. But of course, if the users don't want to contribute to the database, it becomes less usable. So if you want a better database, I suggest you start by contributing the titles you own.

That's my point exactlly. The database is becomming more and more useless. And I guess, that more people don't want to keep typing everything in all the time, that there are more like me, lazy if you will. But like you said, that if lesser users are contributing, then where is there a database at the end? Then it will be useless and all you have is a PC software that you can maintain yourself. And in the end will be vanished (Invelos will not update, when a new Windows or such will come out), because too less people will use it at all. Then what?

Ken (Invelos) has already stated he didn't want to use imdb data for DVD profiler. And I for one am thrilled about that. It is the last thing I would want. From doing the credits directly from the credits I see over and over again how inaccurate imdb actually is.... especially when it comes to the roles played.

The other thing is:

If IMDb really is that great
and you are using DVD-Profiler only to keep track of the films you own.

Then: Why don't you simply become premium member there?
OK, the collection wouldn't have a local component, but since you'd have cloud-features from any device with Internet access that shouldn't be that much of a problem.