Ignore it unless they give you more detailed information.

If memory serves, an existing profile is a valid source.  I've copied cast information for a box set onto the children and they got in okay.

Unfortunately, there's also a lot of profiles in the IVS db that don't have sufficient contribution notes as they were not mandatory in the start-up phase. You'll find lots of profiles only having "New submission" as the contribution notes, so you'd have to go back to Intervocative's DVDP and check the notes there

well, IF the database were done properly, there would be only set of cast/crew data for each movie, and that information for all the different dvd-localities would be gotten from there.

Tipi may be mostly right but there are always exceptions where the cast and crew do not match when released in a different region.

Which means any change would still have to allow for differences in cast and crew and whichever other fields (studios will be one) that need differentiation.

PS: you know what is even more ridiculous ? I just had a look and in this actual case, it's a change from an EMPTY crew list to an actual crew list. The No voter states I should only submit episode-specific crew (I guess because he went to the trouble to do it for the cast since he is the original submitter of the profile).
Not even to mention it is in locality Netherlands while he is German (although of course it is perfectly possible he has the Dutch version).

Quoting Lithurge:

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Tipi may be mostly right but there are always exceptions where the cast and crew do not match when released in a different region.

Which means any change would still have to allow for differences in cast and crew and whichever other fields (studios will be one) that need differentiation.

How many cases there are when exactly the same movie have differences in cast and crew when it is released on DVD on different locations? I think there is none, because if there are changes it obviously isn't the same movie anymore. In case you are referring some Director's Cut or Extended Editions which may have differences in different market areas, or cases like Stanley Kubrick's The Shining: they are clearly different version of the movie, thus needing of course own entry in database.

And some rare exceptions are not the reason to support a bad database design. I can understand that originally DVDP was used to catalog only Region 1 DVD's, so it was not such a big deal if same information was stored twice, but nowadays there may be ten different DVD-releases (maby even more in some cases) of same movie on R1-area alone, plus couple of dozens more worldwide. So is it really necessary to store exactly the same information (in worst cases) hundred times? As a software designer myself I don't see any good reason for such a waste of bytes.

I'd like to hear Mr. Cole's opinion about the current database design and are there any plans to make changes so that the same information is not duplicated unnecessarily.

It's still not advisable to just copy the details from another profile without checking it against your copy of the DVD.

I downloaded the cast and crew information for the Star Trek TNG and DS9 series from the IVS site when I first started using DVD. Since moving over to DVDP V3...and having time due to un-employment I have been re-watching those DVD's, and whilst about it updated cast (not to bothered with crew details myself) and placed them into the new Episode Dividers (as many of you will know), you will be surprised at the number of actors I had to remove from the old IVS versions where upon checking they were an exact copy of the IMDb listings, yet weren't credited on the DVD or even listed as (uncredited).

So just copying from another profile isn't always prudent. The only thing (with the cast lists) for those profiles that might be required to be changed now might be the Common Name / Credited As aspect of it.

Even DVD'd on my wish list are taken for granted...until I purchase that DVD, then I verify whether the cast is correct or not...and if found Not I will submit an update for said DVD. There are some contributors around that I have noticed feel the same way inclined, unfortunately there are too many who would rather copy the info from IMDb and just claim to have used the DVD.

Steve

Quoting Spartacus:

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Quoting Lithurge:

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Tipi may be mostly right but there are always exceptions where the cast and crew do not match when released in a different region.

Which means any change would still have to allow for differences in cast and crew and whichever other fields (studios will be one) that need differentiation.

How many cases there are when exactly the same movie have differences in cast and crew when it is released on DVD on different locations? I think there is none, because if there are changes it obviously isn't the same movie anymore. In case you are referring some Director's Cut or Extended Editions which may have differences in different market areas, or cases like Stanley Kubrick's The Shining: they are clearly different version of the movie, thus needing of course own entry in database.

And some rare exceptions are not the reason to support a bad database design. I can understand that originally DVDP was used to catalog only Region 1 DVD's, so it was not such a big deal if same information was stored twice, but nowadays there may be ten different DVD-releases (maby even more in some cases) of same movie on R1-area alone, plus couple of dozens more worldwide. So is it really necessary to store exactly the same information (in worst cases) hundred times? As a software designer myself I don't see any good reason for such a waste of bytes.

I'd like to hear Mr. Cole's opinion about the current database design and are there any plans to make changes so that the same information is not duplicated unnecessarily.

Check out the R1 & R2 (UK) releases of The Faculty. Not to mention any Anime titles.

Besides I said any change would have to allow for these differences not that there should be no change.